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justme wrote:bands shouldnt play in bars, bands should play in music venues, with a stage, PA and a soundman. obviously bar owners/bartenders dont care about bands! thats why paying a band is optional to them, if yer willing to play in bars be prepared to be double booked, told to go home early, told to turn down every other song, no room to set up and stiffed on yer pay. load in for bars are a complete hassle, the patrons want to eat their wings undisturbed, the staff wants to close the door your using to load in to keep out the cold so theres problems right away...bands should demand pay upfront from a bar or dont even bother. good bands should avoid bars.
donkeypunch wrote:one old drunk guy with a lazy eye drinking Genny in the can.
yellow ed wrote:donkeypunch wrote:one old drunk guy with a lazy eye drinking Genny in the can.
Wouldn't they let him drink at the bar?
sevenyearsdown wrote:justme wrote:bands shouldnt play in bars, bands should play in music venues, with a stage, PA and a soundman. obviously bar owners/bartenders dont care about bands! thats why paying a band is optional to them, if yer willing to play in bars be prepared to be double booked, told to go home early, told to turn down every other song, no room to set up and stiffed on yer pay. load in for bars are a complete hassle, the patrons want to eat their wings undisturbed, the staff wants to close the door your using to load in to keep out the cold so theres problems right away...bands should demand pay upfront from a bar or dont even bother. good bands should avoid bars.
This is true of some bars. I've booked places that make you wait until 10 minutes before your start time to move tables and all that because people are eating or whatever. When this happens, I don't bother going back. If you're being shuffled aside by fish fries and hamburgers, then yeah - the place doesn't value live music.
However we play many bars that are more than accommodating with space, load in, and are reasonable with the money. There are plenty of places around here that treat you respectfully and have an interest in live music even though their money maker is serving dinner.
It's been my experience that the places that are shitty to deal with, are shitty to deal with upfront long before you actually get there to load in. If it's a complete hassle to even book a place, I just pass on them (unless it's some real big deal place - which there aren't many in Buffalo). There are enough places that will treat you with respect as long as you do the same.
Some of the funnest places I play don't have stages, PA's, or a sound guy.
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